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THE HASH OF FATE

%B3XR9LAW3uE3rQ42Zn7ZPqOU/etSS20rChN3ICU/eBI=.sha256
Open dangerousbeans wants to merge commits into master from dangerousbeans / nomic / master
dangerousbeans · 8/31/2017, 12:27:25 PM

THE HASH OF FATE

%wRNns7kX7whUJCdeT2M8xMJmNL005RNdJjA8+NrHH/4=.sha256 dangerousbeans · 8/31/2017, 12:29:45 PM

Vote now! My patchbay died so this is a bit all over the place sorry

%4intaSaBM8PWw4PVRYHLQmilEFw53xtJVKdjwESKMWc=.sha256 mixmix · 9/1/2017, 12:33:31 AM

:aye: - with the understanding that 'create' == 'propose' two rules

%APOJ0c+MOW8TunGzzwGJfsu7thkNjVl8HIzALk94FWY=.sha256 nanomonkey · 9/1/2017, 5:42:08 AM

What does blessed mean?

%l4OrLVbDx7kxlu6yH8gdVuzHwkhtIbFqVnOzqN1isIA=.sha256 dangerousbeans · 9/1/2017, 6:44:13 AM

Blessed means divinely special

%yFkTjHhx79VX/pH+wP8MG7vU0Aoj6iAveLqeYs0YhKk=.sha256 ktorn · 9/1/2017, 2:30:37 PM

Aye.

Some comments. This is not a condition to my vote, rather a suggestion on how to approach some ambiguous points around this proposal.

  • "the Message Concluding the Previous Turn": is the message posted via git-ssb by the previous proposer wrapping the result of the vote on their own proposal, excluding any subsequent messages either by other players, or by a Judge on the same turn, either on git-ssb or elsewhere.
  • "and you may create": you is the player starting the next turn, and he may or may not excercise his right
  • Blessed (or divinely special) Rules: are currently not defined by any rule, so assumed to be normal proposals until someone defines them otherwise. These proposals will still require a vote.
  • In case of Devine Intervention, the turn will only conclude when both proposals (if the proposer exercised their right to propose two, it's clearly not) are voted on.
%WL2RXC6oYEefIaO1MjOE+Gfa9kHebh++qGNHqyHUk/w=.sha256 ktorn · 9/1/2017, 2:33:27 PM

:s/it's clearly not/\=''/

%UN0Nj0szNOcDOTubIxWVhsSjHRWNDZtOBM9VGrihcu0=.sha256 Soggypretzels · 9/1/2017, 3:38:03 PM

So if the divine letter is a vowel, the player can create two Blessed Rules? Is that a total of 2 rules (both blessed) or 3 (two blessed, one normal)? Is creating a rule different from proposing a rule. If so I think that violates rule 107 "No rule-change may take effect earlier than the moment of the completion of the vote that adopted it" and also 304 depending on how you think the amendment that gets resolved.

While I support the spirit of this proposal, I feel in the past few turns we have trended away from explicit rules and into rules that are worded more subjectively. I think if we add too many fuzzy rules, where the meanings are vague, it will become impossible to continue play. We are already on shaky ground with the debate over the effect of the last rule. If we continue down this path we will have numerous unresolvable disputes and each player will have a different subjective view of the state of the game.

I want to get to the part of the game where we can do some cooler things like this, but I think we need to tear down some of the existing restrictions before we are ready to do that. It being equally necessary to go about it in such a way that the rules are clear and legal.

Nay

%w/QDDRfzfpQMFlpP7wDvW5WHZ/MFT6ZL1m76kcHRwtI=.sha256 Zach! · 9/1/2017, 5:47:24 PM

a hearty aye

%dLNpOmNPTjUq09HF6n0XIZpzsCydpB8zJzF41N1O8hs=.sha256 nanomonkey · 9/1/2017, 6:49:56 PM

Nay, as the rule is too ambiguous and undefined.

%0gmyEXr6nxgQV/kn/pC5uNN9N9JMSEjQmoBFXHmwvJ8=.sha256 cheerbitch · 9/1/2017, 7:08:01 PM
  • it takes too long to play a normal round as-is, with one rule, without hash-chasing
  • a single rule can constitute any number of changes

NAY

ktorn mentioned this pull request in Fascinating to see the [voting](%B3XR9LAW3uE3rQ42Zn7ZPqOU/etSS20rChN3ICU/eBI=.sha256) on this one. Our game of nomic, still in its infancy
%2n6hTNEV1DotPCHYMHoCyJau0fNN7ZHCr+QByxttHQY=.sha256 cheerbitch · 9/2/2017, 5:01:34 PM

no network is an ipland

%XocHBvkzn3vTMGCC/Ilw1heZYQKny73W/4W6OWaFrnM=.sha256 dinoworm ๐Ÿ› · 9/3/2017, 3:33:35 AM

if i'm not to late, :+1:

%0/w5a36tuVsStaMmNmVrg6GoL8VjpB54fxBOuBzOdmY=.sha256 dangerousbeans · 9/4/2017, 3:31:59 AM

I vote IYE

so: For: 5 (62.5%) Against: 3 (37.5%)

Total voted: 8

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